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		<title>Comment on California Road Trip, Day 20, Nevada City/Grass Valley by Jill Herendeen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Herendeen</dc:creator>
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		<description>In the 3rd paragraph, you want &quot;wreak,&quot; not &quot;reek.&quot;  (Looking more  literate can&#039;t hurt.)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the 3rd paragraph, you want &#8220;wreak,&#8221; not &#8220;reek.&#8221;  (Looking more  literate can&#8217;t hurt.)<br />
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		<title>Comment on About by Gillian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gillian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2012 16:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent point!  I hadn&#039;t even considered that angle before.  Thanks!</description>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome by admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to Virginia (below), your doctor should have someone on-call for his patients 24/7.  They may not be available in their offices, but they should be available by phone.  Some practices allow for scheduled odd hours visits or, occasionally, meet people in their offices after hours.  The reason this doesn&#039;t happen often is that if you can&#039;t take care of it on the phone, there will probably be the need for testing which would be unavailable in the office after hours.  Urgent Care Centers and ERs have the capacity to do testing whenever they are open, which in the case of ERs is 24/7.

You are correct.  Bills should clearly itemize the charges.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to Virginia (below), your doctor should have someone on-call for his patients 24/7.  They may not be available in their offices, but they should be available by phone.  Some practices allow for scheduled odd hours visits or, occasionally, meet people in their offices after hours.  The reason this doesn&#8217;t happen often is that if you can&#8217;t take care of it on the phone, there will probably be the need for testing which would be unavailable in the office after hours.  Urgent Care Centers and ERs have the capacity to do testing whenever they are open, which in the case of ERs is 24/7.</p>
<p>You are correct.  Bills should clearly itemize the charges.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome by admin</title>
		<link>http://madashelldoctors.com/comment-page-2/#comment-11907</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 01:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, in response to Virginia (below)...

You are absolutely correct in your observation that there is some funny business in billing.  The &quot;fee schedule&quot; is based on the relative value scale that Medicare uses.  It is inherently The fee schedules for all procedures and levels of office visits are based on the Medicare relative value scale that is skewed towards higher reimbursement for procedure (like three little stitches) than evaluating and managing a patients condition.  Those fee schedules are re-evaluated every five years in a process that, by law, is subcontracted to the AMA whose Reimbursement Update Commission meets behind close doors and is dominated by specialists, who do procedures.  Need I say more?

As for &quot;containing costs&quot;...  It&#039;s our job to take care of peoples&#039; needs and, partly because of fear of liability, we have become intolerant of uncertainty and, therefor, quite prolific in the tests that we order to make sure we aren&#039;t missing something.  It&#039;s hard to be concerned about constraining costs in that environment.  

Now, you ask, how much should a doctor get paid?   How much is too much is easier to identify than how much is enough.  A number of the specialist expect to make mid-six figure incomes while primary care doctors make on the order of $170,000 to $200,000/year, less in some states like Oregon.  I would say that $350,000/year should be enough but there are many specialists who believe they are worth, and earn, far more than that.  As a group, physicians have lost perspective on how much money $350,000 is to the average person.  I can safely state that virtually every doctor has someone (from the billing office) looking over his/her shoulder coaching them to maximally document and optimally code every chart so that &quot;we don&#039;t leave any money on the table.&quot;   For most of us, how much is enough is how much money is on the table.  We are just human beings.

The reason the doctor quite reasonably dropped his charges have to do with cost shifting.  We charge far more than what we expect to get paid, contractually, by insurance companies, Medicare, and Medicaid.   If we charged less, we would get paid less.  Sadly, self pay people see the bigger bill but only some doctors let people know, up front, they they would (should?) get a discount for paying cash promptly... just like the insurance companies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, in response to Virginia (below)&#8230;</p>
<p>You are absolutely correct in your observation that there is some funny business in billing.  The &#8220;fee schedule&#8221; is based on the relative value scale that Medicare uses.  It is inherently The fee schedules for all procedures and levels of office visits are based on the Medicare relative value scale that is skewed towards higher reimbursement for procedure (like three little stitches) than evaluating and managing a patients condition.  Those fee schedules are re-evaluated every five years in a process that, by law, is subcontracted to the AMA whose Reimbursement Update Commission meets behind close doors and is dominated by specialists, who do procedures.  Need I say more?</p>
<p>As for &#8220;containing costs&#8221;&#8230;  It&#8217;s our job to take care of peoples&#8217; needs and, partly because of fear of liability, we have become intolerant of uncertainty and, therefor, quite prolific in the tests that we order to make sure we aren&#8217;t missing something.  It&#8217;s hard to be concerned about constraining costs in that environment.  </p>
<p>Now, you ask, how much should a doctor get paid?   How much is too much is easier to identify than how much is enough.  A number of the specialist expect to make mid-six figure incomes while primary care doctors make on the order of $170,000 to $200,000/year, less in some states like Oregon.  I would say that $350,000/year should be enough but there are many specialists who believe they are worth, and earn, far more than that.  As a group, physicians have lost perspective on how much money $350,000 is to the average person.  I can safely state that virtually every doctor has someone (from the billing office) looking over his/her shoulder coaching them to maximally document and optimally code every chart so that &#8220;we don&#8217;t leave any money on the table.&#8221;   For most of us, how much is enough is how much money is on the table.  We are just human beings.</p>
<p>The reason the doctor quite reasonably dropped his charges have to do with cost shifting.  We charge far more than what we expect to get paid, contractually, by insurance companies, Medicare, and Medicaid.   If we charged less, we would get paid less.  Sadly, self pay people see the bigger bill but only some doctors let people know, up front, they they would (should?) get a discount for paying cash promptly&#8230; just like the insurance companies.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome by Virginia Nancarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia Nancarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I also have a question for Natalie Hodge M.D. Your comment &quot;That is because value for health services in healthcare is artificially set by Medicare rather than true market forces… hence spiraling costs&quot;.  You will have to enlightening me on how that would result in spiraling costs! Perhaps what you meant to say is cost to the physician..not the Medicare recipient. Like any businesses, I am sure that fees are inflated in reality knowing all will not be covered by insurance and the rest passed onto the patient. This is not allowed for those on Medicare. One particular incident I remember was when my son fell at school and needed three stitches over his eye. After the doctor was done, the bill came to $100 per stitch as it was considered a form of plastic surgery (tiny stitches that would leave a scar barely noticeable). I did not have insurance to cover this bill and he dropped it to $25 per stitch. I appreciate that he did this and there is no noticeable scar. However, gauging insurance companies also increases health care cost. I understand that running a doctor&#039;s office is expensive and there has to be profit to provide the doctor with an income. Inherently, it would depend on how much they consider is warranted. I would like to know what  doctors are doing to contain costs and are they struggling to meet their bills and still able to maintain a decent salary. What are your views on a decent salary for a physician? I do think the &quot;doc fix&quot; needs to be addressed by Congress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also have a question for Natalie Hodge M.D. Your comment &#8220;That is because value for health services in healthcare is artificially set by Medicare rather than true market forces… hence spiraling costs&#8221;.  You will have to enlightening me on how that would result in spiraling costs! Perhaps what you meant to say is cost to the physician..not the Medicare recipient. Like any businesses, I am sure that fees are inflated in reality knowing all will not be covered by insurance and the rest passed onto the patient. This is not allowed for those on Medicare. One particular incident I remember was when my son fell at school and needed three stitches over his eye. After the doctor was done, the bill came to $100 per stitch as it was considered a form of plastic surgery (tiny stitches that would leave a scar barely noticeable). I did not have insurance to cover this bill and he dropped it to $25 per stitch. I appreciate that he did this and there is no noticeable scar. However, gauging insurance companies also increases health care cost. I understand that running a doctor&#8217;s office is expensive and there has to be profit to provide the doctor with an income. Inherently, it would depend on how much they consider is warranted. I would like to know what  doctors are doing to contain costs and are they struggling to meet their bills and still able to maintain a decent salary. What are your views on a decent salary for a physician? I do think the &#8220;doc fix&#8221; needs to be addressed by Congress.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome by Virginia Nancarvis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Virginia Nancarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Dec 2011 15:13:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a Medicare recipient and a retired LPN (Licensed Practical Nurse). I consider Medicare as good as any health insurance policy offered while working. The premiums are affordable at around $100 per month. I have two questions for any Doctors that have commented here. Over the years, I have noticed that many physicians are no longer accessible in their offices after the normal working hours and week ends. This occurs in offices with four to five doctors that, I feel should take turns being on call for these after hours. I believe this would save on the cost of healthcare as more patients today use the Emergency Room for health conditions that are not emergencies and it is more expensive. My second question has to do with the billing of my health care. I rate it as poor. It is hard to decipher and does not include what service was administered, normally the date, how much Medicare paid and the patient&#039;s responsible part of the bill is all. Before I became my mother&#039;s Health Care Director, she was paying bills twice (usually because she received a second notice), thought her CMS summary was a bill and was unable to keep track.  It was hard for me as well. Physicians need to include what the service was when sending out a bill.  Would appreciate any input to my questions. Thank You</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a Medicare recipient and a retired LPN (Licensed Practical Nurse). I consider Medicare as good as any health insurance policy offered while working. The premiums are affordable at around $100 per month. I have two questions for any Doctors that have commented here. Over the years, I have noticed that many physicians are no longer accessible in their offices after the normal working hours and week ends. This occurs in offices with four to five doctors that, I feel should take turns being on call for these after hours. I believe this would save on the cost of healthcare as more patients today use the Emergency Room for health conditions that are not emergencies and it is more expensive. My second question has to do with the billing of my health care. I rate it as poor. It is hard to decipher and does not include what service was administered, normally the date, how much Medicare paid and the patient&#8217;s responsible part of the bill is all. Before I became my mother&#8217;s Health Care Director, she was paying bills twice (usually because she received a second notice), thought her CMS summary was a bill and was unable to keep track.  It was hard for me as well. Physicians need to include what the service was when sending out a bill.  Would appreciate any input to my questions. Thank You</p>
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		<title>Comment on Contact Us by Samuel Metz MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Metz MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Sir from LaGrande,
 
The Vermont Workers Center meetings were advertised in the Baker City Herald and LaGrande Observer to encourage attendance from the communities and to generate questions, both hard and otherwise. Had you attended, your questions may have been answered. Would you like to add your name to our mailing list so you won’t miss our next appearance?
 
Your point about private clinic expenses is well taken. Perhaps the largest expense in any primary care clinic is the cost of collecting money from private insurance companies, roughly $80,000 per year per physician. Private insurance companies deny 30% of all first claims, and those of us who have run our own practice know that these claims are being denied not because we are trying to defraud the insurance company but because insurance companies stay in business by denying valid claims. With a single payer system, this administrative cost is converted to health care.
 
Medicare costs are increasing. So are health care costs around the world. Medicare attempts to protect access to health care for seniors by considering new delivery and payment mechanisms. Private insurance companies compensate by raising premiums, cutting benefits, increasing co-pays and deductibles, excluding patients who need care, dropping healthy patients who get sick, denying payment to providers, and generally providing less care to fewer patients.. Neither is attractive, but Medicare is the better bargain.
 
You are correct that not-for-profit private insurance companies are no less piratical than for-profits. Both generate a 40% loss of premium dollars to administration, roughly ten times that of Medicare and twenty times that of more efficient single payer systems. We need to eliminate all private insurance companies, for-profit or not, as the parasitical intermediaries between patients and physicians.
 
We absolutely agree that familiarity with the strange and twisted economics of American health care is essential to understanding any reform proposal. Any seemingly simple and easy &quot;solution&quot; should be received with skepticism. Fortunately, single payer systems have demonstrated their ability to provide better care to more people for less money ever since the concept was invented in America eighty years ago. Single payer systems provide care to our armed forces, our veterans, and 26 million other Americans who get care via multi-employer health plans. 
 
Single payer financing is the American solution to America&#039;s health care problems.

Samuel Metz MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Sir from LaGrande,</p>
<p>The Vermont Workers Center meetings were advertised in the Baker City Herald and LaGrande Observer to encourage attendance from the communities and to generate questions, both hard and otherwise. Had you attended, your questions may have been answered. Would you like to add your name to our mailing list so you won’t miss our next appearance?</p>
<p>Your point about private clinic expenses is well taken. Perhaps the largest expense in any primary care clinic is the cost of collecting money from private insurance companies, roughly $80,000 per year per physician. Private insurance companies deny 30% of all first claims, and those of us who have run our own practice know that these claims are being denied not because we are trying to defraud the insurance company but because insurance companies stay in business by denying valid claims. With a single payer system, this administrative cost is converted to health care.</p>
<p>Medicare costs are increasing. So are health care costs around the world. Medicare attempts to protect access to health care for seniors by considering new delivery and payment mechanisms. Private insurance companies compensate by raising premiums, cutting benefits, increasing co-pays and deductibles, excluding patients who need care, dropping healthy patients who get sick, denying payment to providers, and generally providing less care to fewer patients.. Neither is attractive, but Medicare is the better bargain.</p>
<p>You are correct that not-for-profit private insurance companies are no less piratical than for-profits. Both generate a 40% loss of premium dollars to administration, roughly ten times that of Medicare and twenty times that of more efficient single payer systems. We need to eliminate all private insurance companies, for-profit or not, as the parasitical intermediaries between patients and physicians.</p>
<p>We absolutely agree that familiarity with the strange and twisted economics of American health care is essential to understanding any reform proposal. Any seemingly simple and easy &#8220;solution&#8221; should be received with skepticism. Fortunately, single payer systems have demonstrated their ability to provide better care to more people for less money ever since the concept was invented in America eighty years ago. Single payer systems provide care to our armed forces, our veterans, and 26 million other Americans who get care via multi-employer health plans. </p>
<p>Single payer financing is the American solution to America&#8217;s health care problems.</p>
<p>Samuel Metz MD</p>
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		<title>Comment on Contact Us by Michael HuntingtonMD</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael HuntingtonMD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 20:39:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Rich from LaGrande,

Thanks for your comment.  For your one letter there are probably hundreds of people who feel the same way.  

The over-riding motivation for our two tours this year was to make sure Oregonians recognize that the US health care system (really a sick-care non-system) is causing unnecessary severe suffering here and around the nation and is collapsing under its own weight.  We think there are ways to reverse this tragedy.  First we must decide as a society that it’s in our best interests to keep each one of us as healthy as possible, that health care is a human right and public good, and from those concepts enact laws that do include everyone and control costs. All this would seem beyond achievable except that twenty two other nations have done it.  True, they all face financial and ethical struggles, but they have figured out how to provide health care for all their people at about half the US cost per-capita,  while our extravagant spending provides adequate care for only about half of our population.

The medical bills you mention are way too high for a variety of reasons that are correctible.  We currently finance our health care system by making sure we do lots of medical procedures at the highest reimbursement rate we can get by with.  We depend on inflated reimbursements from CTs, MRIs, surgeries, and drugs to bring in enough revenue to keep our hospitals and clinics open, support the costs of those who cannot pay, and create generous to massive incomes for segments of our health care industry. The people who can’t pay for their care are you and me except that they have been excluded from healthcare because of cost and pre-existing conditions.  

It would be as though we financed our fire department by underfunding the fire-prevention unit and allowing other conditions that cause houses to catch fire.  Then we would respond to calls from owners of the burning houses, ask the owner if he/she had paid the fire protection premium that month, if not, allow the fire to continue until serious damage had occurred, then expend much manpower, equipment, and water to douse the flaming ruins, then charge the owner thousands of dollars.  

The RVU system you mentioned is at the center of this dysfunctional health care “fire department”.  The AMA owns the CPT coding system and makes $ millions on royalties from it.  The secretive RUC Committee of the AMA is the determiner of RVU rates and is 85% specialist in membership.   Procedures are rewarded “as the market will bear”.  But of course this is not a free market; the providers control price and the demand.  Primary Care is left behind and gets far less reimbursement for counseling patients in ways that would prevent illness and cost.

Then of course our health care (non)-system pays for many unnecessary middlemen.  Private health insurance is an investment business only tangentially related to health care.  The motivation in this industry is to minimize costs so profits will be high.  Therefore the people who might get sick are systematically excluded from coverage.  Removal of this parasitic industry from health care would remove about 15% of the current costs.

But it all gets back to what we want a health care system to do.  If we want it to be an income stream for as many people as the system can fund, we will continue on our present course until the system collapses.  If we view health care as a human right, a public good like fire and police protection and public education, water safety, road safety, we will all benefit as part of a much healthier society.

Michael Huntington MD</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Rich from LaGrande,</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.  For your one letter there are probably hundreds of people who feel the same way.  </p>
<p>The over-riding motivation for our two tours this year was to make sure Oregonians recognize that the US health care system (really a sick-care non-system) is causing unnecessary severe suffering here and around the nation and is collapsing under its own weight.  We think there are ways to reverse this tragedy.  First we must decide as a society that it’s in our best interests to keep each one of us as healthy as possible, that health care is a human right and public good, and from those concepts enact laws that do include everyone and control costs. All this would seem beyond achievable except that twenty two other nations have done it.  True, they all face financial and ethical struggles, but they have figured out how to provide health care for all their people at about half the US cost per-capita,  while our extravagant spending provides adequate care for only about half of our population.</p>
<p>The medical bills you mention are way too high for a variety of reasons that are correctible.  We currently finance our health care system by making sure we do lots of medical procedures at the highest reimbursement rate we can get by with.  We depend on inflated reimbursements from CTs, MRIs, surgeries, and drugs to bring in enough revenue to keep our hospitals and clinics open, support the costs of those who cannot pay, and create generous to massive incomes for segments of our health care industry. The people who can’t pay for their care are you and me except that they have been excluded from healthcare because of cost and pre-existing conditions.  </p>
<p>It would be as though we financed our fire department by underfunding the fire-prevention unit and allowing other conditions that cause houses to catch fire.  Then we would respond to calls from owners of the burning houses, ask the owner if he/she had paid the fire protection premium that month, if not, allow the fire to continue until serious damage had occurred, then expend much manpower, equipment, and water to douse the flaming ruins, then charge the owner thousands of dollars.  </p>
<p>The RVU system you mentioned is at the center of this dysfunctional health care “fire department”.  The AMA owns the CPT coding system and makes $ millions on royalties from it.  The secretive RUC Committee of the AMA is the determiner of RVU rates and is 85% specialist in membership.   Procedures are rewarded “as the market will bear”.  But of course this is not a free market; the providers control price and the demand.  Primary Care is left behind and gets far less reimbursement for counseling patients in ways that would prevent illness and cost.</p>
<p>Then of course our health care (non)-system pays for many unnecessary middlemen.  Private health insurance is an investment business only tangentially related to health care.  The motivation in this industry is to minimize costs so profits will be high.  Therefore the people who might get sick are systematically excluded from coverage.  Removal of this parasitic industry from health care would remove about 15% of the current costs.</p>
<p>But it all gets back to what we want a health care system to do.  If we want it to be an income stream for as many people as the system can fund, we will continue on our present course until the system collapses.  If we view health care as a human right, a public good like fire and police protection and public education, water safety, road safety, we will all benefit as part of a much healthier society.</p>
<p>Michael Huntington MD</p>
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		<title>Comment on Contact Us by Rich, former CMPE</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich, former CMPE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 05:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saw y&#039;all were in Baker City Last week, never had any heads up. Maybe you didn&#039;t want anyone asking the hard questions again. Was there anyone present who has had to pay the bills in a healthcare organization and keep it running financially? Clinics don&#039;t run on rainbows and sunshine, after all. Have you ever figured out what the RVU rate would be in your proposed system? I asked last April in La Grande, never got an answer. Our Medicare taxes don&#039;t seem to be keeping solvent. I just watched a bunch of tripe online from MAHD, and the bottom line is &quot;profits are bad&quot;. Looking to my left and right, the &quot;non-profits&quot; always had the highest paid folks, as they could roll that payroll into expenses, and buff up their reimbursement rates from government payers.   MAHD Docs: do medicine, and come to the table to discuss reality when you get some economics ed....MHO</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw y&#8217;all were in Baker City Last week, never had any heads up. Maybe you didn&#8217;t want anyone asking the hard questions again. Was there anyone present who has had to pay the bills in a healthcare organization and keep it running financially? Clinics don&#8217;t run on rainbows and sunshine, after all. Have you ever figured out what the RVU rate would be in your proposed system? I asked last April in La Grande, never got an answer. Our Medicare taxes don&#8217;t seem to be keeping solvent. I just watched a bunch of tripe online from MAHD, and the bottom line is &#8220;profits are bad&#8221;. Looking to my left and right, the &#8220;non-profits&#8221; always had the highest paid folks, as they could roll that payroll into expenses, and buff up their reimbursement rates from government payers.   MAHD Docs: do medicine, and come to the table to discuss reality when you get some economics ed&#8230;.MHO</p>
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		<title>Comment on Welcome by Rodney Stich</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodney Stich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 19:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fraudulent withholding of nationally recognized medical treatment following development of a medical condition for which treatment is costly and chronic is a little-publicized scandal and one that must be addressed in any healthcare changes. An ongoing example of this, as it is affecting a senior citizen with HMO Kaiser Permanente, suddenly diagnosed with Stage III kidney cancer--and who himself is caregiver for another senior wiith Stage IV esophagus cancer, can be found at www.defraudingamerica.com/kaiser_permanente.html.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fraudulent withholding of nationally recognized medical treatment following development of a medical condition for which treatment is costly and chronic is a little-publicized scandal and one that must be addressed in any healthcare changes. An ongoing example of this, as it is affecting a senior citizen with HMO Kaiser Permanente, suddenly diagnosed with Stage III kidney cancer&#8211;and who himself is caregiver for another senior wiith Stage IV esophagus cancer, can be found at <a href="http://www.defraudingamerica.com/kaiser_permanente.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.defraudingamerica.com/kaiser_permanente.html</a>.</p>
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